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PATCH 32.2 LIVE 22.01 - here are the notes 
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Post Re: PATCH 32.2 LIVE 22.01 - here are the notes
And when you ask : why do you leave the game ?

- P2w
- Crash in tourny

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Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:44 pm
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Post Re: PATCH 32.2 LIVE 22.01 - here are the notes
DkH.ZeRa wrote:
----> So what do we have at the moment? Either invest too much time or pay too much money. What is the consequence? People will quit the game. This is a lose-lose situation for the players and for panzar studios.

If there is no more playerbase at the end of the day, what will the MANAGER going to manage?

I don't think you can know that. If all the teams didn't have full amus and runes anymore, the chance would be still equal. And for the teams who don't pay at all - don't have full eq now would create a better chance to win. I suppose you're going to deny it so tell me why it wouldn't work like this.

DkH.ZeRa wrote:
Listen to your community or go and die with this game like thousands other games do month for month. The rivalry of games is huge. If you want to be succesful check out RIOT GAMES with their f2p title.

I don't think the forum is a major part of all the community.

DkH.ZeRa wrote:
Forgot to mention: Panzar has 300 players online at europe at evening. Riot has 7,5 millions at evening and 27 millions per day. Sure we cant compare LoL to Panzar. But you should always check out some other f2p systems if you want to be succesful. Also 300 players from whole europe for a game that is released since may 2013 (11 month now) is really low.

You don't tell me it's because of high prices, do you? ;)


Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:19 pm
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Post Re: PATCH 32.2 LIVE 22.01 - here are the notes
DkH.ZeRa wrote:
Forgot to mention: Panzar has 300 players online at europe at evening.

Where do you get the numbers from?
Don't say "From the chat", please. When we look at the chats we can not simply add all numbers, because you can be in up to 3 chatrooms at the same time. So we can only look at the highest number, which is mostly the global chat. But this number does not represent how many players are online, this number only shows how many players are in the chat, which is only in the worst case the overall number of players. This number is the minimum number of players. We can say "There are at least x players online.", we can't say "There are only x players online."

Yes, I know, the number is quite low, which leads to the assumption that the overall playerbase is small, too. Fact is that we don't know the exact number.


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I don't think the forum is a major part of all the community.

The average player does not care about forums until he has an ingame problem and google directs him to one. The ones who are satisfied don't say it, they just play. The ones who are unsatisfied do say it many times in every thread which makes it look more dramatically as it is.

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Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:26 pm
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Xylar wrote:
I play for a few months, which is enough to notice that the game is p2w. You complain about too high prices. And you dare to say it is not p2w ? Kinda ridiculous.

Ci0n, either you are contradicting yourself, or you misunderstand me so much. I've just said that this game is p2w, but there would be more p2w impact if the prices were lower as more ppl would go for it.

Mr.Unsichtbar, tell me what I'm wrong about. I hope you won't shut up.

ZeRa, I actually give the same opinion about p2w as Ci0n, nadox only said about amount of gameplay to farm the resources, which I actually mentioned with a sarcastic assumption that the amount given by one 'old' Russian I think player was right. If you call me a troll, idk if you understand anything here...


Every stupid guy say to every f2p game, p2w but have always the same reason... What the hell is in this game p2w? You have the same gear and amulets and runes. You can craft it WITHOUT money what you only need is premium thats cost 5-10euro per month not much! But isnt important. Yes, prices are high at the moment...(later, in a post from me more about this)
And you said u played few month, aha well where are you? Still playing lvl 1? I see you never in a game NEVER. Your highest char is lvl 1 or what? or -1? I would say the second one. So and now SHUT UP STILL LVL 1 PLAYER


Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:36 pm
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You know.. I don't think if there is any different reason for calling a game 'p2w' than just having to pay to perform better. 'what you only need is premium that costs 5-10 euro per month'. Yeah, not much. If it was 1 cent per a year it would still be PAY, to perform better, to be able to mean something in the tm, as everyone here says amus and runes are essential, which I agree with btw, but you can't actually farm then enough to have full eq.

Mr.Unsichtbar wrote:
And you said u played few month, aha well where are you? Still playing lvl 1? I see you never in a game NEVER. Your highest char is lvl 1 or what? or -1? I would say the second one. So and now SHUT UP STILL LVL 1 PLAYER

Yup. I already recognise some trolls on this forum.


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Xylar wrote:
You know.. I don't think if there is any different reason for calling a game 'p2w' than just having to pay to perform better. 'what you only need is premium that costs 5-10 euro per month'. Yeah, not much. If it was 1 cent per a year it would still be PAY, to perform better, to be able to mean something in the tm, as everyone here says amus and runes are essential, which I agree with btw, but you can't actually farm then enough to have full eq.


Need only play everyday max 2h with premium and you have amus and runes. Runes and amus goes down in 7 days. Gear is not skill...


Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:36 pm
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I always resign after 100 trials of explaining something to someone.


Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:19 pm
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Post Re: PATCH 32.2 LIVE 22.01 - here are the notes
Xylar wrote:
I always resign after 100 trials of explaining something to someone.


This is what you write after several people resigned after numerous trials of explaining something to you? Yeah yeah...

(Not referring to your discussion with Mr. Unsichtbar but to those before that...)


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