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Gunner issue and OP melee 
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Now i dont play a class coz it OP or not i play coz in this case i like the sound of guns..and thats why i play gunner, and i find Gunner ina bad spot atm.

Now to Gunner issues vs other classes

vs.Tank..not only does shield wall type ability negates all of my class i become ussles.and thats only if they enemy team has 1..if they got 3-4 i can leave the game since if they got IQ over 12 and lvl 10+ will have i have no need to be there.Dmg my guns do is .well there is no dmg.

vs Paladin..cant say i got problem vs them if they stand and never more..but they will move and if they go LOS and heal and come back i can shoot at them whole day.

vs Sapper-Hard to see them and i cant say i got problem with them since they are same as gunner classe depented on how many zergers and inquistors your team has to make your life somewhat easy

vs sister fire..well i can say they got same problems as me from my POV but they got it a bit better since they dont need 5 sec to setup turret and they are not stationary and do nice burst dmg with those flame heads unlike my steady dps with bullets.

vs Ingusitor..now this is cute friendly class.There is no team based fight with these units that can come and 1 shot you and kill your turret and traps and you and off he goes..and even if we WE kill him its still him vs us..making other team having more advantage.

vs beserker..same as inquisitor..spede + SICK dmg vs 120 degree rotation turret and 500 dmg trap + froce attack= he can kill 3 gunners at same time..and saw it with my eyes..while all 3 had block ..but hey ..screw block HE SMASH..

vs ..ice witch..well i think i have it best vs them..simply coz they need to get melee range if they wana do best dmg.but still better class then gunner coz he can move and shoot.

GUNNER problem.
-only around 120 degree and should be 360 turret rotation
-slow building time to make turret--it takes me around 5 sec to make it only to be instant destroeyd by melee or range attack
-small dmg range--either make talent in tree or make bullets fly longer
-overheating--i mean rly..all of these problems and you put overheat???
-traps need to be invisble...i mean rly..a visible trap..???


i can put alot more but i find these worst..

And NO..things wont change at higher lvls..zegerks and inquistiors will still be sick.and Tanks will make our lives sad sad..and ppl will LOS us and we will stand and wait for...dono what
Once ppl stop playing 1-2 classes game is over since balance is gone.

I got np dying in fight its a game ill rez 10-15 sec later and boom but having no chance its sad.I cant count how many times have i seen zergers or tanks just walking to me tru gun fire and killing me since they got 3x more hp then i do and killling me tru my blocking....or inquistor braging in chat how he dies after 5+ kills w/o potion..

to any1 beeing so bad and crying over guuners all i have to say is go behinde them..thats it..just behinde them or so far guns cant reach you and you win ..

if you do nothing you will have games only filled with 2-3 classes and random guy,,and NO..not every1 playing this game will have 9 friends playing with them..Maybe 10% of ppl will actualy make 10 man teams,others will have 2-3 friends


Sat May 11, 2013 7:23 pm
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gunners are fine, every class has a weeknes, do you want a mobile gunner that fire missiles made of rainbows and poops out death for inquisiters? what makes you a good gunner is if you learn to get past these problems, and as for the tank, panzar is a team based game, you gotta rely on team mates to take down that shield so you can do some dammage. to sum up, i think gunners are fine and a important part of a team


Sat May 11, 2013 7:38 pm
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You should talk with @white_noise


Sat May 11, 2013 7:49 pm
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suzzaku wrote:
gunners are fine, every class has a weeknes, do you want a mobile gunner that fire missiles made of rainbows and poops out death for inquisiters? what makes you a good gunner is if you learn to get past these problems, and as for the tank, panzar is a team based game, you gotta rely on team mates to take down that shield so you can do some dammage. to sum up, i think gunners are fine and a important part of a team


you are wrong wrong and wait for it WRONG.
1.Every range class in this game beside gunner is mobile with 360 degree turn
2.You cant be good gunner if you are 1 shoted and LOS or just ambushed from behinde,while crafting your turret again for 5 sec.
3.NO GAME IS TEAM BASED WHERE YOU CAN IGNORE TANKS..and here you can ignore TANKS,go around tank no matter what class and just go to back of enemy line and start killing.what can tank do?? taunt you.nop he cant....ok later he gets hook but thats 1 ??


Sat May 11, 2013 8:36 pm
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i think you've just had a couple of bad game's so decided to come rage on the forums like so many other people have before. gunners can destroy an entire team if your team is played well and you posistion yourself well


Sat May 11, 2013 9:31 pm
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2-3 Gunners 14+ and then 23+ lvl make the battle terrible.


Sat May 11, 2013 9:39 pm
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truth about gunners is following..

they are cherry on top..if fight goes good ( meaning you got good non cute pug team) you will be able to do something..if fight goes bad gunner does not have chance or tools or skill to help team win fight coz its dependent on rest of team.
Its a weak link in chain and more of them you have bigger chance you will lose coz 1 beserker or inquisitor or even good sister of fire/ice witch can kill 3-4 turrets and 3-4 gunners and BB fire support from back so it only takes 1 enemy to take out or slow whole team of gunners.

I like the game and thats why i dont like thats its not balanced and any1 who rly likes the game and wants to make it be a good game will HATE THE FACT THAT IF YOU PICK A CLASS YOU CAN STEMROLL OTHER CLASSES AND SAY YYYY ITS FINE COZ I PLAY OP CLASS,AND THEN AFTER SOME TIME YOU WILL ONLY SEE 3 CLASSES PLAY THE GAME AND BB GAME AND BB MONEY INVESTED IN THE GAME.


Sat May 11, 2013 10:45 pm
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so i made a gunner just to see if you were right and guess what. your wrong, gunner is amazing fun and a generaly decent class


Mon May 13, 2013 9:43 am
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Totalycool wrote:
suzzaku wrote:
gunners are fine, every class has a weeknes, do you want a mobile gunner that fire missiles made of rainbows and poops out death for inquisiters? what makes you a good gunner is if you learn to get past these problems, and as for the tank, panzar is a team based game, you gotta rely on team mates to take down that shield so you can do some dammage. to sum up, i think gunners are fine and a important part of a team


you are wrong wrong and wait for it WRONG.
1.Every range class in this game beside gunner is mobile with 360 degree turn
2.You cant be good gunner if you are 1 shoted and LOS or just ambushed from behinde,while crafting your turret again for 5 sec.
3.NO GAME IS TEAM BASED WHERE YOU CAN IGNORE TANKS..and here you can ignore TANKS,go around tank no matter what class and just go to back of enemy line and start killing.what can tank do?? taunt you.nop he cant....ok later he gets hook but thats 1 ??



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Mon May 13, 2013 12:16 pm
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suzzaku wrote:
so i made a gunner just to see if you were right and guess what. your wrong, gunner is amazing fun and a generaly decent class

Let us know what is awesome when you play Gunner; is it the way you 1shot Berserkers or when you beacon your Turret behind Inquisitor and 1shot him, is it when Tank attacks and you turn on the invulnerable shield laughing at his swinging, is it when Ice Witch starts casting Winter Cold and you hit her with power attack and she stops casting it and then she has to cast it again for 5 or more seconds etc etc.

I hope this game gets fixed soon because these several hundred players will be the peak of its population, if they think that people prefer games where 1 shotting is common you will be in for a big suprise (unless its a FPS).

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