oh thats why it was 3.5 hrs per day.. +30% is 5 hrs. Hardly anyone has time to play at night. If it was to be 20 hrs you'd still say 'its a person's choice either to have time or to save it' ?

xylar write the right things.

still don't forget if u miss a day, i's like u must play 7 hours then

not possible while working and some real life familly and co ...

and don't speak about 6 E will not break the bank for prenium, it's not a matter about price, it's pay to win or not, so if u want to play competitive without paying u must play couples of hours every day whithout miss and all that for only 1 character of course. u can't play many characters to help mates witch miss a class for tournament for exemple.

so for tournament : pay or be a geek ^^ that's all. ( better pay, panzar need money while we all watched the price of armors set grow x2 ) they need money >_<

I dont know what are u want guys, pay or play. I know there is no time for play all day, but what do u want, everybody get everyihing for free? I think we should just get more rune, but everything else is good.

i don't cry for myself for this, the fact is known, and if panzar don't get more player it's for all these problems that's all.

just panzar can't expect to be more popular when theyr are all these irregularity for all kind of players, that's all.

can u undertand that maybe 50% of players who test panzar can play like 1-2 hours per day for free, then quit because they don't have more time ? then panzar say good by to half his population. they must understand this.

at least they can keep this system if they got 1000 regular player like on ru but not here witch he community is small and can't be bigger !

do u know that when the pub was made for millenium the clan was full like 500 players few monthsago? now it's just a photom clan with nobody connected, change or quit.

I get my equipment in 4 hours of play. 4/7 is like 0,5 hour per day. Its nothing.
You can still, play and have anything FREE. It is YOUR choice, do you will buy stuff.
Example, you wanna stay healthy and get athletic body ? You can either go to gym which gonna cost you some money. Or you can go parkour outside or play something with friends, or do some kind of activity which will give you good results. So p2win ? NO !
Also for example if you pay the gym (premium in this case). And when you enter it, you see lot buffed up people who uses proteins/anabolic steroids (equipment in this case).
Does it mean you have to ? No ! You can get the same results with just harder work. All depends on YOU !
But still, lot of people without proteins and stuff scared to go to gym because they will be surrounded with buffed up people.
After my advice to separate free-to-play players from premiums, the crying goes on. That just shows how scared you are.

No if it required 20 hrs per day I would say it is far too much, if you look at my previous posts I did say I think non premium time requirement are probably a little to high. It wouldnt take much of a drop in mats requirements or increase in pick rate to solve the issue and I agree with Cokelito it would make a difference to the size of the playerbase.

I agree also, that something is wrong due the lower playerbase.
But that something is just balancing. Free-to-play players are scared ! Thats all !
Separate them, lvl 1-20 and premiums 20-30. Easy !

eNeS, so now you admit its p2w? As no one is going to 'play all day' and they won't get everything for free, so the only way is to pay.
AllStar, 4 hours? You really sure of that, and honest about that? Even if, which I dare to doubt, count in potions which you use to make your performance better, as well as your runes you already have while collecting materials for the next ones. I guess the better you perform the more materials you get, +2,5x of normal amount, as you ahve premium. And the performance highly depends on the fact that you have the runes and many many potions, which without premium are difficult to be in your equipment. In every one in three battles you just lack of potions, when it usually happens even in 'one in one battle'. And without potions, without healer...
Yes you can play for free, but you cannot perform as good as if you had premium account. Regarding you your example given. As well as if you don't have time to keep such an athletic body as if you could at the gym, because no one does actually (i take buying some toys to keep you fit as the gym's case) have time. Yes you can be just fit, but not that fit - you can have your full eq, but without runes and enough potions. Of course its a player's choice: to pay or not to pay. Still the same choice as to perform yet better or not.
Well, waiting for another 'proof' for saying 'its not p2w at all, in any way'.
Im wondering what you'd say and what you'd think after 3 months playing without premium and the runes and potions you already crafted.

Yes 4 hours.
Already with equipment to get new set materials only. Of course crafting time will take some more. The crafting time only should be removed absolutely.
Been already top1 without runes and amulets numerous times. Happens often when you forget to renew set on time.
And as you sayd, its players choice to pay or not to pay. So why not lvl 1-20 free-to-play area and 20-30 premium area would not be the best option ?
New to game and free-to-play player will gonna have chance to test game without paying nothing. From lvl 1-20 for free. (Nobody can buy nothing)
Lvl 20-30 would be monthly subscription, like now we have premium. What would that change for you ? You probably have premium already, dont you ?
Lvl 20 would be free to play but would still gonna have randomly lvl 20-30 people (premiums) battle, just to see, what it looks like on premium area.
Lvl 20 still will gonna have battles with lvl 10-20, to get more experience if they want, and then move up.
And you can be even more fitter, than fit.

Hehe i never bought crystal, and i started the game ~ 6 months, only hard is crafting 11 runa/week everything else is easy.