To make something clear.

Panzar Community Managers have no say in the Prices.
Panzar Dev have no say in the Prices.

All Panzar Prices are decided by financial advisors and External Gaming commision.

So Stop blaming the Devs for Prices.

If you don't like the pricing and want a change a lot more then 30 people on the forum need to complain. Yes only about 30 players complain and the rest of the 16000 players say nothing.

Yes White, and players are players, they can do anything....

But, players who doesnt post here are not always people who dont care about prices (and the increase).
Maybe they know that is useless..

16000 Panzarians where do you hide them.

30 aktive people in forum where do you hide them.

Like i said make a InGame Pool with some questions and you wil see that many people dont like the new changes. (BV, Prices, Communication,....)
2-5% use and write in Forum.

Cya

You ok but I my opinion doing nothing is also useless.

Every time there is a prices change I have a discussion with Queen Bee about it and see needs to stop me or I keep on discussing it.

It doesn't work because not enough players stat there opinion. If 16000 player pay 0€ or 0 Ruble for 2 weeks they will need to listen.

On the other hand if the prices would change what would you be willing to pay because nothing is for free. For me 60€ for Year Premium seems reasonable
How many hours would you consider reasonable to play to be full amulets "and full rune". For me 2 hours/day or 14 hours/week with premium seems reasonable.

For non-premium players it should take longer maybe dubbel as long. This is free to play not a free game for nothing.

Gandalf,

16000 worldwide US + EU + RU
30 on forum EU + RU

About 2500 players log on to panzar EU every week to play some games. But never at ones. These are deductive numbers not facts.

It is really deceived people who cry for the price(prize)!
Most of people who cry gain(win) every weeks crystals and that grumbles.
Then sirs players think that behind the game(set,play) there is a quantity of people which works and which do not live on love alone.
Thus the sale of crystals allows certainly has Panzar to survive!

Then when I see players investing(surrounding) 300 crystals to gain(win) a tournament for lvl 15 and that cries then stop(arrest) of think that your navel has!!!!

I spend (Donate) a lot of money in this game, specialy when i start since a year ago. (more than 200€ )

I have absolutly no Problem to Donate a Game what i like and play very often.

But the main problem is that Donator's and other Panzarians have no Voice here. Nobody is listen. Changes get made without thinking.

Im out know from this discuess. Im pony tired say it again again and again.

it is like talking with a huge wall.

Do whatever you wont and drive this game infont of a wall. Im f***ing tired it sucks so hard.

1 million threats and topics how shitty it is and nobody cares

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The reaction of the rest after seeing prices( i mean the rest, that didnt quite after patches 32, 33 and 34.x ) was alt+F4...

wolfi :

"To make something clear.

Panzar Community Managers have no say in the Prices.
Panzar Dev have no say in the Prices.

All Panzar Prices are decided by financial advisors and External Gaming commision.

So Stop blaming the Devs for Prices.

If you don't like the pricing and want a change a lot more then 30 people on the forum need to complain. Yes only about 30 players complain and the rest of the 16000 players say nothing."

so tell the financials to increase the cost to 1 billion dollars, they will see that nobody take it and fail, how much the price and other stuff must increase to make the financials know that they are wrong?

ofc 30 people complain on forum cause only 30 people know that there is a forum, still in game thounsand people ask questions that 95 % answer is in forum, and still lot and lot people complain too about all this but in the game, invisible for you !

why panzar crew can't tell and convince finnancial that what they are doing is wrong !

that the point someone do something bad and evryone in panzar just shut up and look it crush .
are panzar crew just sheeps ?
give us a stream with financials people then, in fact panzar " normal" crew can't do a thing cause the financials decide ALL !.

Sorry but Whitewolf , if i understand this right. Its a Joke!
Panzar Dev's cant say anythink about the Itemshop? There is a extern Financial advisors who make the Prices. And Panzar Dev's cant change this?

So my question is, Panzar Dev's dont see the real problem? And cant Support this by this financial commision?
We must accept this, and should not blame the Dev's?

You say also there 16000 Player ?? Maybe in 24 Hours on all 3 Servers. And this 16000 Player login 1 Time or so.
But this say us nothing I Mean there maybe 1000-2000 Player AT THE SAME TIME Online and Playing the Game, and this is not much!
Panzar Dev's know's that new player goes away because Matchmaking -> Itemshop -- But this problem is normaly a financial problem.. so Panzar dev's cant do nothing?!?!
Without new Player -> no Money for you (both of you , panzardev's and the commision )

You want also add new Patches -> cost money -> without changes on the Itemshop you will not win enough new Customers -> Prices increase again?
Panzar dev's cant do anythink again?

So sorry, but Panzar Dev's want to "sell" this game .
You must also create a Fair Itemshop, if you dont understand this, its a shame!

You say also, only 20 guys in this Forum flaming for the Prices.
This Price Police is okay for you? And also there alot of topic's in steamforum and other game review site's.
If you read this Comments 1 hour you know the Problem of PANZAR is the Itemshop.
And this Problem is Important for Panzardev's and also for the external gaming commision!!

if you say, Panzardev's cant to anythink and we should stop flaming.
why we should write in this Forum? Better you give us the Link from this external gaming Commision ?

If i want to sell somethink in the reallife,and i have 1000 pices left.
what can i do ?
1-)I can maybe increase the prices extremly , so i must only sell 100 pices and im finish . But who want to buy this?
I can search for some stupid guys , but i will never sell alot of them.
2.) Or i try to sell it cheaper -> and sell it to alot of guys -> after this first 1000 pices i have happy customers and can sell them nexttime more.
and also this customers tell this some friends, and i got new customers....

Panzar choose the first option.
I think the second option is much better...

And again , a problem with the Itemshop is also a problem with Panzar.
You cant say , this is not our fault because there is a external gaming commision who increase the prices for you, and you cant do nothing!
this Looks really stupid