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Instant freeze, really?
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Author:  Snookeh [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Instant freeze, really?

Most lame/reta rded thing I've seen by far. Obviously it doesn't cost enough cp if it's spammable. Make it cost 200 cp for all i care, or atleast have a maximum frozen targets of 2 so the unfrozen actually have a chance to counter.

Author:  Karenira [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:10 pm ]
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SCNR ;)

Author:  Mr.Unsichtbar [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:24 pm ]
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Snookeh wrote:
Most lame/reta rded thing I've seen by far. Obviously it doesn't cost enough cp if it's spammable. Make it cost 200 cp for all i care, or atleast have a maximum frozen targets of 2 so the unfrozen actually have a chance to counter.


Noob

Author:  DkH.ZeRa [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:26 pm ]
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Snookeh wrote:
Most lame/reta rded thing I've seen by far. Obviously it doesn't cost enough cp if it's spammable. Make it cost 200 cp for all i care, or atleast have a maximum frozen targets of 2 so the unfrozen actually have a chance to counter.


Its a strong spell of course. But its in the game since the beginning and it was used in every tournament. Why do you bring it up now?

Author:  Bumbalou [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:46 pm ]
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Author:  Snookeh [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:55 pm ]
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You can put your popcorn away, not intending to cause drama ;)
Bringing it up now because obviously at level 20 it wasn't that much spammed and I never played on RU.
More gamebreaking than mortar will ever be- calling it now.

Author:  Icy Tom [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:12 pm ]
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I think I know what 2 guys you came across :D Maybe we even talk about the same game ^^

You can play the ice witch this way or that way. If you go versatile style, you are using floor ice and ice curse, scream and roll and stuff, so you won't be able to insta freeze often, because you use your class points for other stuff. But other frost just farm 50 points, use insta, and repeat. Like a fire basically farms 60cp, uses sky and repeats.

Insta is not that op. Firstly, you tank can block it with the magic shield. Secondly, it is very hard to freeze the whole team, and as soon as one guy is not frozen, he can disturb the ice witch in a way that she cannot continue the freeze with the normal skill. Fire will push the frost in the air, zerk suchpunches, tank shieldbashes, paladin unfreezes anyway and inquisitor uses dust. IF the gunners put their teslas in middle, the ice is dead within seconds by them. Ergo, one not frozen guy can ruin it all for the ice and you are frozen 6 seconds, which is not longer as with a normal freeze.

Or course there are mad combos, e.g. Insta, then curse, then the scream. "Ouch". But as said, one guy not frozen and the combo is not working. And if such a combo works, the frost is out of cp.

It is a very new gameplay right now, cause insta is now 20cp cheaper, so used more often. Gunners now have 3 teslas AND barrels AND gravity mines, instead of only one of it. Inquisitors seem to rather use cage+fire instead of trying to backstab. Healers that went for 20% Atackspeed can now also use immortality, so this is seen more often. Therefore, Sky may be used less often... It's all in change and we see where it goes. So, let's just gain more experience and learn to deal with it. I also had to deal with Mr. Krieger yesterday that kinda had a felt +300% Attackspeed with his rage buff.

Author:  Snookeh [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:15 pm ]
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Everything you've written can be countered/blocked, but instant can not ;) (you really think a frost would instant if a tank is shielding? :)

Author:  Tizy [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:03 pm ]
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You have rage on level 2, votex of war and say instant is op? It's not easy to do instant in good moment if enemy tanks know how to play. It is also useless when your team aren't ready for this so It's really easy to waste 50cp.

Author:  cokeliko [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:05 pm ]
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learn to counter?

it's like u tell me a good zerk will PA a tank who is blocking for like 10 sec, hell no.
he will wait an oppurtunity to bring it, likethe tank trying to attack or something, it's the same for the ice.

keep her in mind while faking doesn't take her on then u shield at the right moment.
there are some tips to make her fail her instant, or at least know if she'll do it soon, people need to be aware of this. but for that they need to look around more than there feet ...

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