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Gunner issue and OP melee 
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Rimis wrote:
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so i made a gunner just to see if you were right and guess what. your wrong, gunner is amazing fun and a generaly decent class

Let us know what is awesome when you play Gunner; is it the way you 1shot Berserkers or when you beacon your Turret behind Inquisitor and 1shot him, is it when Tank attacks and you turn on the invulnerable shield laughing at his swinging, is it when Ice Witch starts casting Winter Cold and you hit her with power attack and she stops casting it and then she has to cast it again for 5 or more seconds etc etc.

I hope this game gets fixed soon because these several hundred players will be the peak of its population, if they think that people prefer games where 1 shotting is common you will be in for a big suprise (unless its a FPS).

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I prefer games where 1 shotting is common. It's all about position and teamplay.


Thu May 16, 2013 10:44 am
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lol kidding me ?

i've been playing the game for 2 days now and I'm rolling a Gunner to steam over PPL !!!

for real dude I hope your joking atm


Thu May 16, 2013 11:07 am
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I prefer games where 1 shotting is common. It's all about position and teamplay.

Nice cluelessness there, your class, inquisitor or beserker?

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lol kidding me ?

i've been playing the game for 2 days now and I'm rolling a Gunner to steam over PPL !!!

for real dude I hope your joking atm


Let us know when you reach higher bracket and end up trying to set up turret or at least firing once from all of those leaping monkeys or inquisitors.
I've seen a Inquisitor kill 3 gunners without a problem, traps are easy to destroy, Tesla Poles as well, blocking will prolong your life for 3 seconds because its ok that melee does 2x damage of your hp, if you remove block you will get one shotted (positioning, stupidity of some people), potions are much better for them then us, cone of attack for turret is horrible, their movement speed is higher then ours (try outrunning a Inquisitor) etc etc.
So far, the best score ive seen in game was a Inquisitor that killed 10 people in a row. just going around and 1 shotting.
But yeah, tell us about your 2 day experience.


Fri May 17, 2013 12:08 am
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This is screenshot from actual public game.
If the class is so unplayable how do you explain this?
Why people keep playing it despite all those leaping monkeys and inquisitors?

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Fri May 17, 2013 9:31 am
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I would never touch a overpowered class, i don't need some epic skill that does all the work for me.
Just saying people should try to be the skilled ones, not the class.


Fri May 17, 2013 10:03 am
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This is screenshot from actual public game.
If the class is so unplayable how do you explain this?
Why people keep playing it despite all those leaping monkeys and inquisitors?


Are you kidding me? Really, level 1-4 bracket where everyone is trying out the game or the class they have never played?
And starting screenshot as well, was it too hard to press screenshot at the end as well?
Show me bracket 10+ levels or even better at level 30 and ending screenshots, im eager to see gunners dominating at level 30.


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Are you kidding me? Really, level 1-4 bracket where everyone is trying out the game or the class they have never played?
And starting screenshot as well, was it too hard to press screenshot at the end as well?
Show me bracket 10+ levels or even better at level 30 and ending screenshots, im eager to see gunners dominating at level 30.


Firstly, it's not 1-4 bracket. Look at tank's equipment.
Secondly, why do you need ending screenshot? Even if gunners playing poorly it do not changes the fact that there's too many of them.
And lastly, I personally have seen games in 20-30 bracket with 4vs5 gunners or so. It is hell on earth. Even 3vs3 gunners can ruin the game for everybody else. Moreover, zerkers and inqs can't do much against concentrated dwarven build on higher levels, you need 20+ sorceress with skyfire spell, and there is no guarantee that you get one in team. And without her the gunners will dominate completely.

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And lastly, I personally have seen games in 20-30 bracket with 4vs5 gunners or so. It is hell on earth. Even 3vs3 gunners can ruin the game for everybody else. [...].

In this regard I can say that we are working on this issue and that (without being too specific) with the next patch there will be certain limitations on the number of players playing the same class.

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Fri May 17, 2013 12:17 pm
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Firstly, it's not 1-4 bracket. Look at tank's equipment.

DUDE THAT TANK HAS AROUND 3K HP ..STARTING TANK HAS UNDER 2.9k hp and has 2 starting abilities this one has those 2 and 1 from talent tree ,seem like that throwing thing they have..

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Secondly, why do you need ending screenshot?

Beacuse im saying that the class can be easily counterd by almost every1 and i have been playing few games where i was blocked from even seting up turret even with beacon talent because w/o armor improvemnets that turret can be 1 shoted and if you dont have a chance to fire at enemys you cant get class points and you cant upgrade your turret or set up tesla poles and so on

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Even if gunners playing poorly it do not changes the fact that there's too many of them.

Yes you can find them at starting bracket that is 1-4 lvl since alot of ppl are trying the game coz its a new game or playing class they didnt play before.
And even if 9/10 of players in arena are gunners that means only that in that arena 9 ppl that like gunner class joined it ( and in this case like i said like 6000 times its first bracket in game aka 1-4 lvl)

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And lastly, I personally have seen games in 20-30 bracket with 4vs5 gunners or so. It is hell on earth. Even 3vs3 gunners can ruin the game for everybody else

in this case all you need is inqusitor or beserker that has iq over 20 or tank with shiled up to absorb all of the dmg..you are wrong.Since turret cant rotate 360 1 enemy from back can kill all of those gunners and i have seen it so so many times..

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Moreover, zerkers and inqs can't do much against concentrated dwarven build on higher levels,


how about go behinde them and melee all of their traps/tesla poles or ignore them since they got 3x more hp and after killing them drink a hp potion since you can 1 shot them with force attack,i even had inquisitor 1 shot my lvl1 armor upgraded turret

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you need 20+ sorceress with skyfire spell, and there is no guarantee that you get one in team. And without her the gunners will dominate completely

wtf is this supose to mean?? frost or fire mage can kill me and my turret in 5 sec that it takes me to build it if we go 1v1 and even with beacon spell he can throw flaming skull thing and 1 shot me and turret

you are wrong and provide no argument or evidance.and sadly you are posting ss from 1.4 bracket ..you are sad sad

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In this regard I can say that we are working on this issue and that (without being too specific) with the next patch there will be certain limitations on the number of players playing the same class.

dont bother since no1 or rly rly rly small number of sappers and gunners will play this game coz ppl dont want to run all battlegorund from inquisitors or raging monkey beserkers.All you need is 1 inquisitor or beserker to stealth/jump and kill witch or fire sister first then kill gunner in turret and sapper then drink potion and do it again.

i have seen so many youtube videos of this game and i cant find 1 gunner over lvl 10..and 90% of those vidoes are beserkers or inquistors.I am done talking to you white_noise since you are clueless about the game you provide no arguments or evidance and you are talking as if enemy team has has ppl w/o brain and cant use stealth or jump to come behinde gunner.
i understand that all kids wana play OP classes like you are but im not kid nor do i see this game beeing a good one if things dont change in nerfing Tank shiled ability,survival of inquistors or beserkers .
Give me more ss or videos to see those dominating gunner.


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Gebe wrote:
white_noise wrote:
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And lastly, I personally have seen games in 20-30 bracket with 4vs5 gunners or so. It is hell on earth. Even 3vs3 gunners can ruin the game for everybody else. [...].

In this regard I can say that we are working on this issue and that (without being too specific) with the next patch there will be certain limitations on the number of players playing the same class.

Sweeeeeeet! Good to hear Gebe, thank you!

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