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zgrzycistopa wrote:
3) Please don't spam in this topic about amulets power etc.

Why? Wasn't this one of your original points?

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Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:58 pm
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First, I understand the game favors people who pay but Panzar is f2p and needs income.

Now tell me: what exactly can you buy with crystals that you can't buy with gold and effort? Amulets? Resources? Equipment? Maybe Panzar is not p2w afteral.

Also, keep in mind that most of the players who smash you (and me) have played hours and hours on the Russian server. Additionally, the above mentioned "Godzilla" is placed 2nd on the total experience earned in the whole server (http://www.panzar.com/top100.php). Maybe he played 5x more games than you played which means he's more experienced in the game than you are.

PS: I never spent a single dime on Panzar. Even though I see great potential in the game, I refuse to pay to play a game that isn't fully developed.

PS2: Spawncamping is frustrating but it's a valid defensive strategy.

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Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:03 pm
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Eventhough you are right about the experience being also important in fights, having a good gear is much more important in this game.
Yes you can get everything with effort, but that would take insanely long time to achieve that. And since amulets and stronger runes are time restricted, you would need to play like 15 hours every day to have enough resources to keep up with those, who just buy everything instantly with crystals.

I wouldnt be against this system, if that stupid matchmaker would put those paying people into the same games, instead of mixing them into one team, where they are agains low lvls with ridicoulosly low gear compared to them...that way this games becomes very frustrating, when this happens 6x in a row and I am not sure how about you, but I dont find amusement in being raped by people who just outgear me...


So you can say, that this game is f2p and there is nothing what can be pointed out as p2w, but in real life, people who are not willing to pay just dont stand chance against those, who pay.


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PS2: Spawncamping is frustrating but it's a valid defensive strategy.


sure as hell it's not a valid strategy. Unless you want people to ragequit, then its ok.

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I wouldnt be against this system, if that stupid matchmaker would put those paying people into the same games, instead of mixing them into one team, where they are agains low lvls with ridicoulosly low gear compared to them...that way this games becomes very frustrating, when this happens 6x in a row and I am not sure how about you, but I dont find amusement in being raped by people who just outgear me...


+1 although i'm not playing the game for a moment if it happens 3x in arow ;-) you've got strong nerves dude! :D

the idea to separate paying/nonpaying is great, but don't expect it.

I have one idea though:
The brackets should be tighter, and to get to the next bracket you need all the gear of the actual bracket.

That way, by the time you reach more and more levels, you can expect your team (as well as the enemy) to have decent gears.

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Balance the bezerker. bye cya in a year


Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:31 pm
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PS2: Spawncamping is frustrating but it's a valid defensive strategy.


sure as hell it's not a valid strategy. Unless you want people to ragequit, then its ok.

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I wouldnt be against this system, if that stupid matchmaker would put those paying people into the same games, instead of mixing them into one team, where they are agains low lvls with ridicoulosly low gear compared to them...that way this games becomes very frustrating, when this happens 6x in a row and I am not sure how about you, but I dont find amusement in being raped by people who just outgear me...


+1 although i'm not playing the game for a moment if it happens 3x in arow ;-) you've got strong nerves dude! :D

the idea to separate paying/nonpaying is great, but don't expect it.

I have one idea though:
The brackets should be tighter, and to get to the next bracket you need all the gear of the actual bracket.

That way, by the time you reach more and more levels, you can expect your team (as well as the enemy) to have decent gears.


No, that'd be silly. Very silly.
Some people like to power level. I know I for one power level from level 9 to 20 without buying any gear till 20. I don't get helplessly crushed on the way either. So I really think these complaints are a skill problem first.
Yeah Godzilla is strong, but he's not invincible. As you see he runs away from sticky situations because he knows he will die. He then comes back when he knows he may win.

Anyone can do that, and everyone should. Imagine if you had someone on your team at their spawn distracting them as well. Now who is gaining points on the main point?


Anyway, I think that labeling the level backet that you're queuing in is a good idea. But many low levels will rage quit when they see level 20s. So that'd be lame.

Really the only thing to solve these problems is a bigger player base.
Zerkers are powerful, but a skilled ice witch can deal with them easily. So can a team of a priest and another zerker. Or a tank, or a fire witch. They're not invincible, this is a team match.
Just a skill issue right now.
It'll all be solved with time, as the player-base expands.

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Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:37 pm
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with this broken system, the player base will probably just shrink, not expand.

its just not working...

If you compare it to League of Legends for example...they have milions of people playing it...and why ? because its for free and you cannot end up losing again and again, just because someone payed to have better eq than you are trying to get for weeks.


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Enigma wrote:
If you compare it to League of Legends for example...they have milions of people playing it...and why ? because its for free and you cannot end up losing again and again, just because someone payed to have better eq than you are trying to get for weeks.


Do you seriously think it has millions of players just because of that? :D
People got to be really stupid since there isn't plenty of games as successful as LOL.^^


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So whats your explanation for such succes of LoL ?
and yeah, forgot to mention DOTA, World of Tanks...
and there are also other, but they are not pure PVP arena games...


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Enigma wrote:
with this broken system, the player base will probably just shrink, not expand.

its just not working...

If you compare it to League of Legends for example...they have milions of people playing it...and why ? because its for free and you cannot end up losing again and again, just because someone payed to have better eq than you are trying to get for weeks.


What's broken about the system now that the patch has been released?

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